65 Comments for Pre-Trib Rapture: An Introduction, The Pre-Tribulation Rapture of The Church
Comment on Pre-Trib Rapture: An Introduction, The Pre-Tribulation Rapture of The Church
There is no pre-trib rapture
by Anonymous - 10/25/11 12:47 PM
The title says it all. There is no pre-trib rapture. Check out the user gillamrl's page on youtube. This isn't spam. He explains a lot better than I can. Don't bother replying to me as to why I'm wrong. I don't frequent this site and I won't be replying. Save your energy.
1And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Rpature and Coming End of Days
by Lucy Furr - 4/11/11 12:06 PM
When the 12-21-12 happens, the sky will cloud over. Trees will whisper like angels and the ocean will churn a mountain from below. It has been written. Seed will yeald barron crop, but a harvest like no other will come forward. Prepare and pray, yeah sinners.
Whatever date you came up with or any other that is thrown out there is scriptural perversion. You are wrong, as are others such as Harold Camping who try to lie and give an exact date of Judgement and "Rapture" which is directly against what Jesus commanded. All you need to do is read His word. If you love Him, you will seek Him and His truth. All these dates and ideas are the devil's work. When these days come and go, what will the world say about Christianity? Who will listen? They will think all Christians are insane, which will usher in things like the Mark of the Beast and turn them from God. Be careful, and do not listen to the devil's minions like those men and women; harold camping, joel olsteen, joyce meyers, etc. They are making money and fame on perverting God's word. God will avenge.
Matthew 24:36 - But of that day knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mark 13:32,33 - But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
RE: Rpature and Coming End of Days
by Anonymous - 10/26/11 5:29 PM
U go so true why people think they can predict God and his son
catching away, rapture
by Anonymous - 8/26/11 1:42 PM
And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words
command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words
1 Thessalonians 15-17
According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
This is from the bible, there is another scripture in NT that says one will be in field and caught up anther one left, one will be spinning the other left.
The idea of the rapture as it is pushed to some christians was the voice of a woman named Elizabeth in the 1800's in Scotland. The idea stuck. It's not a valid thing or notion. There is an end time, but not where the christians get taken up before the house comes down, and nobody suffers. That is a false teaching.
Not Taken
by Charlie Sheen - 5/28/11 7:24 PM
Jesus Christ isn't the lord and saviour. Deut 24:16
What do you mean by not taken? The verse you quoted has to do with each of us being held responible for our own sin...We could say now, that we are each responsible for our own salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ who has paid for our sins and we no longer have to face condemnation...
spared from wrath, not tribulation
by meanwhile I'm still thinking - 5/26/11 1:21 AM
God's word states that His children are not appointed to wrath...No where does it say that we are spared from the time of tribulation. In fact if you read revelations carefully, you may see signs of the tribulation while the church is still on earth. Also, who is God speaking to when He says you will be delivered up and that the spirit of God will speak through you..I believe this is when we witness against the devil and perhaps the tongue spoken on pentecost day will be poured out again and all will hear in their own language, across the internet, and many will see this miricle as well as the witnesses being raised from the dead..and then they will know they had been deceived..this is when I believe Christ will return..and we will be taken up, just before his wrath is being poured out...
PRETRIB RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL but the current model is wrong and needs correcting.
by John The Baptist - 11/06/10 9:01 AM
Pretrib Rapture is what the Bible teaches. You miss the point when you suggest that today's Christians are not worthy of escaping the tribulation and therefore need to go to the tribulation as a result. The theology behind this type of thinking is problematic. First it is by grace we are saved through faith, it is the GIFT of God and not of Works, lest any man should boast. Eph. 2:8-9. Also 1 Thes. 5:9 "God has not appointed us to wrath but to salvation in Jesus Christ."
The MISTAKE that everyone makes when laying out the chronology of the events in Revelation: i.e. the 7 seals, 7 trumpets and the 7 vial judgments is that they do not understand that THE SEALS ARE PART OF THE CHURCH AGE. The four chariot riders of the seals 1-4 are those angelic beings that sit on the four corners of the earth throughout all ages to carry out the will of God Who sits on the throne. A study of the book of Zechariah 1-6 will reveal that they are the eyes of the seven spirits of God which go “to and fro” the earth to carry out... more...
RE: PRETRIB RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL but the current model is wrong and needs correcting.
by Anonymous - 11/11/10 1:33 AM
The prophecies of Daniel have already been fulfilled. Its up to humanity to cause peace or the Creator will Divinely Intervene in the affaires of humanity.
RE: PRETRIB RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL but the current model is wrong and needs correcting.
by Anonymous - 11/14/10 3:00 PM
Not the 70th week!
RE: PRETRIB RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL but the current model is wrong and needs correcting.
by Anonymous - 11/16/10 2:56 AM
Yes all of Daniel has been fulfilled. The second coming has already happened. As the Jewish people did not believe the same applies to Christians today.
RE: PRETRIB RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL but the current model is wrong and needs correcting.
by Sword of the Lord - 3/19/11 7:39 AM
All that you have written makes no sense and causes confusion. Work of the devil. You cannot spew out various scriptures and add your own ridiculous ideas in the mix. This does not work for God's children. It is clear in scripture- Gods Word, that we His elect will go through Tribulation. Period. The second coming did not happen, you are very confused. Do not confuse others, but only preach when you know exactly what you are talking about. Pray God shows you. He may not show you. You sound like a false prophet. The Word of God is clear to His elect, and it states in scripture there will be those who will try to confuse it. Matthew 24 - read the whole chapter. there is much more but I'll make it easy for you. Be careful for making your opinions scripture. You anger God.
RE: PRETRIB RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL but the current model is wrong and needs correcting.
by Sword of the Lord - 3/19/11 7:46 AM
First of all, you are Not John the Baptist. Secondly, you are all over the place. All you need to do is show us where in scripture it clearly states there is a "pre trib rapture." You cannot do it, but if you read scripture you will see that His elect will have to endure it. I have no problem suffering for Jesus, and I will not look for avenues to escape it. No one will escape it. And I say again, rather than reciting all those verses which do not say there is a pre trib rapture, BOTTOM LINE: there is no pre trib rapture and you cannot show me ONE scripture to say there is. That is the bottom line.
End Days
by Anonymous - 9/05/05 10:45 AM
I want to know exactly where it says in the Bible about what the world is going to go though before the second coming. I feel that we are going though it right now and alot more to come.
Contrary to popular churchianity, there is not going to be a pre-trib rapture. I came to this understanding about 10 years ago, and cannot be persuaded otherwise by the soft, fluffy "preaching" coming from the pulpits today. It's totally unfounded scripturally, and even defies logic.
Thank You for site
by Anonymous - 8/26/07 12:19 PM
Thank you for your site. I have found here much useful information.
Good site ! ;)
RE: End Days
by Anonymous - 7/03/07 7:02 AM
If Jesus,the disiples,and the early reign church, plus countless bible believing christians through Rome`s rule (not to mention the prophets of the Old Testament)had to go through persecution, why in the world would we think that we would get to skate through free of charge if these days truly are the "end days"?
RE: End Days
by Anonymous - 7/16/07 6:00 AM
the bible say in 1 cor 15 51 we shall rise and be change the righteous does not perish with the ungodly
RE: End Days
by Anonymous - 3/13/09 1:35 AM
Jesus will return when our Father tells Him to. I trust Him to care for His people however He decides to work and fulfill His plan.
RE: End Days
by Anonymous - 2/24/10 3:14 AM
Every reply was for my good. I pray God's Love shine forth as the noon day for each of you.
RE: End Days
by Anonymous - 3/24/10 1:29 AM
After the rapture thier will only be seven years of tribulation and then the battle of amragedin. So I believe before the rapture and the Trib begans we will see signs of the second coming that the Bible speeks about..
RE: Thank you for your site
by Anonymous - 7/03/10 2:41 AM
I 2nd that. Im a very devout Christian; by predestination; and I enjoy the opinions of follow Christians, on various topics.
RE: End Days
by Anonymous - 7/04/10 6:54 AM
The books of Peter talk about the scoffing thats going on now. Revelation talks about the trials and tribulations soon to come that we r not going throught as of 2010.
Right now Id say counterfiet signs and wonders are not yet happening; where as the church of Jesus Christ of Nazareth is still here.
RE: End Days
by Anonymous - 7/13/10 1:42 AM
The return has already happened. 7 million human beings know this, the rest are asleep. Jesus does not defeat the devil in humanity AA Michael does. Its in the writings. Jesus is the 6th and Michael is the 9th. Six does not mean completion Nine does. To understand this you must investigate the truth for no one can do this for you. The Holy Bible is full of symbolism to read it literally one becomes lost. There is only one that could interpret the Holy Bible that is the Ninth and one of his names is MICHAEL. All else is false, as in false prophets. In other words no human being can interpret the HOLY BIBLE only one sent by God can do that. That is the Ninth.
RE: End Days
by Anonymous - 1/01/11 3:16 PM
The years of antichrist is not for children. That means that if children get raptured; as of course they will; then those of us "child like" in Jesus Christ will also be raptured.
RE: End Days
by Anonymous - 1/15/11 2:10 AM
Rapture is only symbolism one cannot avoid judgement.
RE: End Days
by Sword of the Lord - 3/16/11 5:47 AM
Amen! The "Pre Trib" rapture Idea has no base in scripture. It is as you said, a feel good message that merchants of Christianity like Joel olsteen and the rest love to preach for money. Would these people be buying books and tickets to their "shows" if he preached the truth? His "annointment of ease" doctrine doesn't fit with what Jesus preached. I'll take the word of Christ anyday! Remember what upset Jesus to the point of making a scourge and turning over tables in anger in front of the Temple? They were merchants, selling sacrifices and turning God's house into a house of merchandise. Beware all you preachers, reverands, evangelists; when you make your living off the Word of God you will anwer to God for it. It is a message that should not cost anyone anything; it is free. Who are they to make a sumptuous living off of God and even confuse people in the meantime.
RE: End Days
by Sword of the Lord - 3/16/11 5:58 AM
there is a comment here about the archangel being the ninth and the completion of prophecy. This is the most twisted, blasphemous, and confused statement I have ever seen! This must be the devil himself causing confusion and taking away Christ's glory. Well, I say to you, you cannot do it; you have failed, you will pay for your disbelief! Jesus said the world will see Him coming in Glory and EVERY KNEE WILL BOW TO HIM not to the archangel. Michael is an angel not to be worshipped. If you even read your scripture, you would know no angel is allowed this. If you want to know where you are wrong scripturally, write back, and I will show you all the Scriptures you need. You are the false prophet.Revelation 15:4 "who shall not fear thee o Lord, and glorify thy name. For THOU ONLY ART HOLY. for all nations shall come and worship before thee for thy judgements are made manifest." Jesus has not come the 2nd time yet. You will see Him when He does. Try to explain your "angel story" to Him then.
we are going to die
by dominik bird - 2/02/11 9:00 AM
im saying good bi to every body before we die and good luckin the future if there is even a futere
If you are of God you have a wonderful future! Nothing you can go through in this world can even match the wonders of being with God in heaven. People suffer in this world and don't even have God. If we suffer as Christians, we have a great reward in heaven which is promised by Jesus! You are never alone, if you are one of Gods. You have brothers and sisters all over the world. Resist the Mark, you will not be alone.
NO BODY KNOWS!!!!!!!
by by Anonymous - 10/16/10 9:26 AM
Past few years I always heard the word " RAPTURE" up to present time , every might knows what it is but some are not...and it is sad to hear that some of our bothers and sisters did know the true meaning of these matter. Nobody knows when,where,who...etc will going to belong in this very "quick event" like bible says like a blink of an eye this will be happen......So please everyone must look for the true place where you can hear the "TRUE" meaning of the words of our "GOD"........
Rapture is only symbolic. We all have to pay for our deeds to one another. There is no easy way to heaven. God nor Jesus will not interfere with humanities free will. To do so would stop the purpose of God's Creation and He is not about to do that. God gave everyone a free will to develop spiritually. God will not take that from a human being for any reason. His love for you is to great.
RE: NO BODY KNOWS!!!!!!!
by Anonymous - 12/27/10 5:35 PM
Im not understanding what the word "Rapture" is symbolic for? All I know is, its a word used to decribe the Christians being caught up as the years of antichrist begins.
I realize the word "freewill" is in the bible; yet next to the very nature of prophesy, we dont seem to really have any freewill at all. "Freewill" seems to say to God; "Ok God, I know you have spoke, BUT; Ill have to think about it."
How many times has man sayd that when God records His prophesy? How about not even 1 time. That seems to go to strict predestination; and not even 1 iota of "freewill".
END OF DAYS
by Anonymous - 8/18/10 9:04 AM
TO Anonymous entry 9/05/05
You ask where in the Bible this is mentioned.
11 Timothy 3:2-5 NIV People will be lovers of themselves.........
11 Timothy 3:2-7 People (who live at the end of this age) will be... always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth.......
Rev 7:14 and 13:5 the tribulation will be a short time of intense trouble at the end of the age.
There are many more references in the Bible. These prophesies should make anyone that reads them- no matter how learned- as humble as a little child.
It seems that the USA is responsible for allot of the technology going into all of the microchips. We "America" are responsible for so much of the worlds discoveries and inventions. Electric, electronics and computers. This leads me to a thought. Theses things most likely were to better the life?s of humans thus used in restraint. So if the true believers in Christ who understand God are taken away, then these implementations or chip mandates would happen. There would be no one in congress to stop mandates from going through. Yes I suppose you could argue we would be murdered by our fellow Americans so mandates could go through. We could even be labeled as terrorists. But if we were suddenly taken away the evil would be much less seen and no one would be here to share the truth about such mandates. The thing is it will all be revealed in it?s proper time. The most important thing is to SHOW the love God has for all his children. To challenge people to live a Christ centered life, to exchange there religion... more...
i agree so muchh.. and it bothers me to know that i live here and i feel like were holdin everyone from moving on from the ways of the 3rd dimensional world..but america needs to change and fast.. people are to closed minded to understand something that sounds so insane..
because the truth is harder to express and take in than the false
RE: Pre Rapture
by Anonymous - 2/24/10 3:21 AM
Amen
Rapture
by Rev RKB - 2/08/10 10:42 AM
Luke 17: 20-21 " the Kingdom of Heaven is whithin you and whithout you." " Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world." 2000 years and you still can't get it. Meet the Lord where He lives and you will truly know Rapture. Or will you just rely on strong delusion like everone else? You know there wasn't a written Bible for 1550 years. Did you ever wonder were millions of people found faith before then? Read Foxe's Book Of Martyrs and expand your horizon a little bit. There is a far greater judgement on preachers and teachers than anyone else. They're sins be on them that learn from you, but their blood is on your head.
1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Pre-Trib Rapture
by Believer In Y'shua - 11/21/09 1:02 AM
In some ways we only have to wait and see, the only ay we will know if there will or will not be a rapture pre-trib is if the 7 year treaty is placed between Isael and her enemies. it is of god to my understanding that He does want me to be used in the last days...I have even read that some christians are now preparing fr the end times, as in buying land, saving money, getting prepared etc. I know in my heart that I will be used fo the glory of God in these coming tribulations. you can see it happening now! (EU is a huge controlling force, 1 currency, cointries are now called STATES under the EU Banner and the motto of the EU is to bring harmony and peace to the globe) now if that doesnt send warning bells off to christians then some christians need to wake up otherwise those will be still in a state of lull and that is dangerous. God Bless you all and May Y'shua bring peace apon you and Israel. AMEN
Many thanks for this blog site. Here is an unmissable opportunity to warn people of the coming final holocaust that is coming upon this sin sick world. May we be ready to stand up and be counted in these last days! We as Christians MUST come out of the closet and be made known to everyone, regardless of the consequences.
if u Belived JESUS guys,i hope u never use and never touch verichip 666..
cause JESUS hate if we do it..
u must Belived JESUS FOREVER cause JESUS is The LOrd n SAVIOR for we until forever..
i hope u listen my comment..
GBu aLL guys
wake up
by people - 3/05/09 3:53 AM
Look up microcloning (lsd, pcp based) the chip is the work of the fallen one and he is here but don't be afraid of him just don't take the chip and don't listen to the devil he is trying to control every one and is getting to the poin't DON'T TAKE THE CHIPS. They are evil.
Yes, Jesus is Lord,and he is coming again. This is a great site, and I am happy to have found yet another site that is spreading the truth. Jesus is coming back!
What about the Hebrew children in Egypt with the blood on the door posts. They didn't have to deal with the curses that the
Egyptians did. What about Noah's family through the flood. What about the 10 virgins. 5 of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and went with the bride groom. What about the blessed hope for Gods children in 1 corin.15:51. Doesn't this sound like God will be our protector in every way? If he doesn't lift us out of it, will he go through it with us like Daniel in the furnace?
Yes, like Daniel in the furnace without being burned. Also like the Hebrews in Egypt when they were protected in the midst of plagues. And like Noah's family surviving the flood which they also experienced first hand but didn't perish.
We will meet Jesus in the clouds when he returns after the tribulation, not before. Then God will release the final plagues on the earth.
Making statements
by Gary - 6/01/08 5:42 AM
Please look at your first statement then read the rest and see what is going on with the statement.
Please give me contact address (e-mail) of this site administrator.
You say no finger pointing but I see some.
65 Comments for Pre-Trib Rapture: An Introduction, The Pre-Tribulation Rapture of The Church
Comment on Pre-Trib Rapture: An Introduction, The Pre-Tribulation Rapture of The Church
There is no pre-trib rapture
by Anonymous - 10/25/11 12:47 PM1 Reply: Post a Reply
RE: There is no pre-trib rapture
by Anonymous - 11/20/11 11:08 AMRpature and Coming End of Days
by Lucy Furr - 4/11/11 12:06 PM2 Replies: Post a Reply
RE: Rpature and Coming End of Days
by Sword of the Lord - 4/26/11 5:07 AMRE: Rpature and Coming End of Days
by Anonymous - 10/26/11 5:29 PMcatching away, rapture
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catching away, rapture
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catching away, rapture
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rapture
by roger boudreau courier driver - 7/23/11 7:48 AM1 Reply: Post a Reply
RE: rapture
by Anonymous - 8/11/11 7:24 AMNot Taken
by Charlie Sheen - 5/28/11 7:24 PM1 Reply: Post a Reply
RE: Not Taken
by Anonymous - 6/02/11 12:15 AMspared from wrath, not tribulation
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PRETRIB RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL but the current model is wrong and needs correcting.
by John The Baptist - 11/06/10 9:01 AM5 Replies: Post a Reply
RE: PRETRIB RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL but the current model is wrong and needs correcting.
by Anonymous - 11/11/10 1:33 AMRE: PRETRIB RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL but the current model is wrong and needs correcting.
by Anonymous - 11/14/10 3:00 PMRE: PRETRIB RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL but the current model is wrong and needs correcting.
by Anonymous - 11/16/10 2:56 AMRE: PRETRIB RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL but the current model is wrong and needs correcting.
by Sword of the Lord - 3/19/11 7:39 AMRE: PRETRIB RAPTURE IS BIBLICAL but the current model is wrong and needs correcting.
by Sword of the Lord - 3/19/11 7:46 AMEnd Days
by Anonymous - 9/05/05 10:45 AM14 Replies: Post a Reply
RE: End Days
by Anonymous - 8/26/06 6:44 AMThank You for site
by Anonymous - 8/26/07 12:19 PMRE: End Days
by Anonymous - 7/03/07 7:02 AMRE: End Days
by Anonymous - 7/16/07 6:00 AMRE: End Days
by Anonymous - 3/13/09 1:35 AMRE: End Days
by Anonymous - 2/24/10 3:14 AMRE: End Days
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by Anonymous - 7/03/10 2:41 AMRE: End Days
by Anonymous - 7/04/10 6:54 AMRE: End Days
by Anonymous - 7/13/10 1:42 AMRE: End Days
by Anonymous - 1/01/11 3:16 PMRE: End Days
by Anonymous - 1/15/11 2:10 AMRE: End Days
by Sword of the Lord - 3/16/11 5:47 AMRE: End Days
by Sword of the Lord - 3/16/11 5:58 AMwe are going to die
by dominik bird - 2/02/11 9:00 AM1 Reply: Post a Reply
RE: we are going to die
by Sword of the Lord - 3/16/11 5:41 AMNO BODY KNOWS!!!!!!!
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RE: NO BODY KNOWS!!!!!!!
by Anonymous - 10/18/10 1:01 AMRE: NO BODY KNOWS!!!!!!!
by Anonymous - 12/27/10 5:35 PMEND OF DAYS
by Anonymous - 8/18/10 9:04 AMNo Replies Post a Reply
Pre Rapture
by Anonymous - 10/06/08 9:47 AM2 Replies: Post a Reply
RE: Pre Rapture
by 333'er - 8/03/09 12:33 PMRE: Pre Rapture
by Anonymous - 2/24/10 3:21 AMRapture
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RE: Rapture
by Anonymous - 2/24/10 3:08 AMPre-Trib Rapture
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RE: Pre-Trib Rapture
by Anonymous - 2/11/10 10:27 AMPraise The Lord For A Great Site!
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mm.. nice..
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RE: mm.. i hte that
by hate - 5/28/09 3:34 AMwake up
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Jesus is Lord!!!
by Earl McFarland - 10/26/08 10:39 AM1 Reply: Post a Reply
RE: Jesus is Lord!!!
by Jesus's servant - 12/24/08 3:24 AMPretrib questions
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RE: Pretrib questions
by Anonymous - 9/07/08 10:05 AMMaking statements
by Gary - 6/01/08 5:42 AMNo Replies Post a Reply
Very nice you site
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excellent!
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