I want to know exactly where it says in the Bible about what the world is going to go though before the second coming. I feel that we are going though it right now and alot more to come.
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Contrary to popular churchianity, there is not going to be a pre-trib rapture. I came to this understanding about 10 years ago, and cannot be persuaded otherwise by the soft, fluffy "preaching" coming from the pulpits today. It's totally unfounded scripturally, and even defies logic.
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If Jesus,the disiples,and the early reign church, plus countless bible believing christians through Rome`s rule (not to mention the prophets of the Old Testament)had to go through persecution, why in the world would we think that we would get to skate through free of charge if these days truly are the "end days"?
the bible say in 1 cor 15 51 we shall rise and be change the righteous does not perish with the ungodly
Jesus will return when our Father tells Him to. I trust Him to care for His people however He decides to work and fulfill His plan.
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After the rapture thier will only be seven years of tribulation and then the battle of amragedin. So I believe before the rapture and the Trib begans we will see signs of the second coming that the Bible speeks about..
I 2nd that. Im a very devout Christian; by predestination; and I enjoy the opinions of follow Christians, on various topics.
The books of Peter talk about the scoffing thats going on now. Revelation talks about the trials and tribulations soon to come that we r not going throught as of 2010.
Right now Id say counterfiet signs and wonders are not yet happening; where as the church of Jesus Christ of Nazareth is still here.
The return has already happened. 7 million human beings know this, the rest are asleep. Jesus does not defeat the devil in humanity AA Michael does. Its in the writings. Jesus is the 6th and Michael is the 9th. Six does not mean completion Nine does. To understand this you must investigate the truth for no one can do this for you. The Holy Bible is full of symbolism to read it literally one becomes lost. There is only one that could interpret the Holy Bible that is the Ninth and one of his names is MICHAEL. All else is false, as in false prophets. In other words no human being can interpret the HOLY BIBLE only one sent by God can do that. That is the Ninth.
The years of antichrist is not for children. That means that if children get raptured; as of course they will; then those of us "child like" in Jesus Christ will also be raptured.
Rapture is only symbolism one cannot avoid judgement.
Amen! The "Pre Trib" rapture Idea has no base in scripture. It is as you said, a feel good message that merchants of Christianity like Joel olsteen and the rest love to preach for money. Would these people be buying books and tickets to their "shows" if he preached the truth? His "annointment of ease" doctrine doesn't fit with what Jesus preached. I'll take the word of Christ anyday! Remember what upset Jesus to the point of making a scourge and turning over tables in anger in front of the Temple? They were merchants, selling sacrifices and turning God's house into a house of merchandise. Beware all you preachers, reverands, evangelists; when you make your living off the Word of God you will anwer to God for it. It is a message that should not cost anyone anything; it is free. Who are they to make a sumptuous living off of God and even confuse people in the meantime.
there is a comment here about the archangel being the ninth and the completion of prophecy. This is the most twisted, blasphemous, and confused statement I have ever seen! This must be the devil himself causing confusion and taking away Christ's glory. Well, I say to you, you cannot do it; you have failed, you will pay for your disbelief! Jesus said the world will see Him coming in Glory and EVERY KNEE WILL BOW TO HIM not to the archangel. Michael is an angel not to be worshipped. If you even read your scripture, you would know no angel is allowed this. If you want to know where you are wrong scripturally, write back, and I will show you all the Scriptures you need. You are the false prophet.Revelation 15:4 "who shall not fear thee o Lord, and glorify thy name. For THOU ONLY ART HOLY. for all nations shall come and worship before thee for thy judgements are made manifest." Jesus has not come the 2nd time yet. You will see Him when He does. Try to explain your "angel story" to Him then.
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