Do you realise how this comes across to others. Do you really think it helps people. It doesnt it scares them away from god. Isnt it a christian thing to draw people to god. Seems more important to a lot of you to be right. Also I got 2 bibles together and things have been changed in modern bibles...wtf. but you keep referring to it.? Religion is giving god a bad name..Your turning people off god, you are actually doing the devils work. Also the catholic church has just now said that contraception is ok..oh right so we can make it up as we go along can we? Self fulfilling phrophecy, if u believe in the end of the world and you encourage this belief It is going to happen.Thanks for that. What about changing it..I think when I read the bible jesus is saying this doesnt have to be so. A billion people with a belief system of armageddon..what do you think is going to happen. If it doesnt those peoples beleifs are null and void...a persons beleif system is everything to them. Jesus said do ye not know that ye are gods also? (a lot of versions have dropped the s..another interesting fact..have a look,also the old bible says we made god in our image like us..they have changed that to make it singular..have a look)
My father was born in 1926 they were tormened and depressed with armageddon the world was ending then. Also what good does it do to know whats going to happen even the bible says that..if it doesnt help anyone whats the point. Why dont you try relating to the average person and change your approach. Arent you all meant to be saving souls...what your doing is confusing people and turning people off god. I am sure he would be thrilled....Maybe a lot of you have missed the point..so caught up in interpretation. God is about love.
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Jesus Himself caused a lot of commotion when he spoke. When He spoke the truth, no one wanted to hear it because it convicted them. He was crucified for the truth. My work as a Christian is to bring the truth of scripture to people's lives. Fear is something you have because you do not know the full command. How many times must it pointed out that this is Christ's command. He tells us to "watch" not knowing the exact time, but to be ready to resist the Mark. This IS in scripture. Jesus said He came to bring NOT peace, but a sword; because the truth divides those who are not prepared to hear it. This happened in Christ's time, and is still happening now. You are right in one thing, the churches who call themselves Christian have twisted, contorted, and violated the bible to thier advantage. They will pay the price. People who date armageddon and say it will happen at this time or that are indeed wrong! But you do not hear the word of God, if you do not listen when He tells you to 'Watch." Do not read different versions of Scripture. The New World Translation is a watered down blasphemy and so is the NIV. The King James Version is the closest translation; one we must believe is the true word of God because it has not been altered. If you do not believe this is God's Word, how can you call yourself a Christian. I am not afraid because my God advises and prepares me through His word and commands me to tell others that are His. People are afraid of many things; but that will not stop what God wills. Find anything in the King James Version that backs up what you say. Also, it is not up to us to "save souls." It is merely to carry the word to those God calls. Only God can save a soul. Pray He saves yours. Remember, we are only messengers; "Many are called, Few are chosen."
We've been down this road with Charles Manson, David Koresh, Jim Jones....etc, etc. Anyone thinking of joining or believing in this madness...please, educate yourself about the history of bible prophecy and bible cults. We have a free will...please use it.
So who's scared? I'm not, are you? If so, why? These are the questions you need to be asking if this issue scares you. For those who do not know God through Jesus Christ, there is a reason to be scared. Fear is an impulse built into human beings for one reason: to protect us from things that can harm us. So if scaring some people makes them think enough that it turns them from the pathway that leads to hell, then scaring those people is a very loving thing to do. For some people who are apathetic or scornful about spiritual issues, fear is the one and only thing that will divert them from their godless lifestyle and lead them to Christ.
By the way, it may be an inadvertant slip, but spelling God with a small g usually infers that the writer does not see God as a supreme being, rather a minor deity. So again I say, examine yourself if this issue generates fear in you, and consider whether you have the assurance of Christ as your Lord and Saviour, the one who will protect you from the Mark of the Beast, either by giving you the internal strength and wisdom to avoid taking the mark, whatever the consequences, or whether you expect Christ to rapture you before the insertion of the chip becomes compulsory. Either way, you need to choose Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour NOW. Now is the acceptable day of salvation. 2 Cor 6:2
Someone mentioned David Karesh, Jim Jones, etc. I'll add to it; modern day false prophets, Joel Olsteen, Joyce Meyers, etc. Only fools will follow false prophets. The people of God through Jesus Christ and His word will not follow false shepherds. In the Word of God, it states from the beginning there were false prophets and false shepherds. Jesus warned us not to follow them. The word of God is pure, but satan since the beginning tried to pervert it; which will cause fear and consternation. The bible states fear is a sin. When you have God and are His, His warnings are not going to cause fear in you, but will only increase your faith in Him. The fearful will push Him away because they don't want to hear His message, regardless. I am comforted by every word He says. He says we may even be "beheaded" for His sake; I am ready.
I believe, in the days gone by, people were tortured and burned by the Christian church, for their perceived godless lifestyle. So now, the godless will be tortured and burned in the after life also ?
You have also contradicted yourself Greg. You stated you are not scared but you have also stated fear is the one and only thing that will divert oneself from their godless lifestyle.
Scaring people is a very loving thing to do ?? Can you elaborate on that statement please or does that fall in the category of scaring people with bible prophecy ? Thank-you
...just for the record, I believe Charles Mansons' biggest trip was FEAR. The more fear the better. Hmmm
@ anonymous...There was nothing contradictory in what Greg said. You misquoted him as well. Look at what he did say. He did not say that fear was THE ONLY WAY to divert oneself from a godless lifestyle. He did say that for SOME that it might be the thing that turns them around. He said that personally HE was not scared. It is true that some or many Christians have believed in The Lord as the result of hearing about Hell, or the coming Tribulation. So in that case such a message is certainly a loving one, because both happen to be true. The GOOD NEWS is that God has made a way for mankind to make peace with Him in order to avoid the just punishment for sin against a Holy God. The Governor, as it were, has offered EVERYBODY a full and complete pardon. Anonymous, if you have a problem with that then you must take it up with The Lord and Creator of the Universe, not Greg.
Also, referencing the crimes of nominal Christians in the past is totally irrelevant to the issue and conversation at hand, as well as a very lame tactic used by haters of Christians and Christianity. You see, because we believers could just as easily ask atheists and other non-believers to explain the 100 million people murdered and starved to death in just last century in the name of atheistic Communism, for example. It would be unfair for us to ask that of you just as it isn't right to ask us to explain the actions of others done in the name of God, yet are so obviously NOT Godly, therefore not His Will.
Hi, If you have a child and you have been warned not to allow him to a certain block of the neighborhood because there is a pedophile and he risk being harmed by this criminal....Would you tell him not to go or let him figure it out himself? Well from your comment i get it that you would not want to scare him so i guess he is on his own.....We have to warn people or they risk getting this mark..The bible says that if you are marked with this number you forever loose your soul in hell.....I would rather have someone alert me then spend the rest of my life in hell scared forever of eternal pain and judgement....
The Christian thing is to warn other of the impending doom about to overtake our world. If you saw a bus coming and your friend was in the road would you do anything to save him or just let the bus hit him? This is life,
I believe that by telling people the truth about god, holy bible, and living in the last day, it should not scare people unless they like living in sin. i believe in doing the will of god until the day jesus comes get us like a thief in the night.
Fear is only in the marketing of this verichip itself...Christians be not afraid as we are aware that God himself is in control!!!
Do not be afraid because God is aware and in control and says satan will sway people like wheat..Be not swayed to do everyone does! It is scary if you dont understand it was written before america existed what will occur. Be wise and read the word of your God.
Just don't just think "America" but think, the whole world. Like, North Korea, Africa, Cuba, Russia, Afghanistan, China, etc., eetc., etc., America is the "beast" corporately (Israel is a person and a Nation (corporately) so America, viewed as a "person" is an Antichrist, which is what America is becoming and is already. It allow the doctrine of the muslims, which denies the deity of Christ the same place of reverence as Christ. That is idolatry. America once knew Christ, but it now have "many lovers" and have turned against Christ, who was first inAmerica as a Nation. Righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any people. America have become an harlot in its commitment to Christ. It is now an antichrist nation. By having many gods, they must need had to had rejected the one true God. The number system, not a chip is the mark. who ever don't have a "number" which is ceated by mankind (this system) they can't buy or sell. Must also not believe in the virgin birth and oopenly deny that Christ is Christ. Worship any other god but not Christ. Sounds like something that the muslims believe in. they believe that you can only have Allah as "the god",all others can be acknowledge, under "Allah." This is all of the "devil." It is allowed of God so to fulfill prophecy. That is why they continued from the days of Abraham to this present day, so to try the true believers of God. well that is enough for now,. I do hope that God send you someone to tell you the truth about what is really happening. Not all of these "talk behind someone else" prophets, that don't know nothing of the Lord other than His birth. Only one that can convince people to come to God is the "spirit of Christ" He said, no man can come to the fahter but by me, and again, no man come come to me except he be drawn of my Father. the "Spirit" of God has to draw a person through conviction . The Holy Ghost will convict (reprove0 the world of its sin, righteousness and judgment. This is how a person come to god, not by them "choosing to come" many have chosen to come, and are not able to.
I feel sorry for you. you just don't understand, neither can you understand. It isn't meant for you to get it. It is only meant for them that are to be saved to get it. But you don't get that either. You don't realized that you hasve to pray and "choose" to acknowledge and than trust" in that God that is invisible and seek to have him to lead and guide you. No single person can lead and guide you. It is too complicated to explain, but each person is different, and each person must come to term with God one on one. I will pray for you, that is all I can do. If I try to teach you, I would have to write a book so to explain everything as I go along so that you might understand. God Bless.
i must admit it does not scare me because i know that the Lord WILL be coming soon and at any time and i know exactly where Ill be when he does return. Ill be in Heaven with the rest of the people smart enough to repent and be saved.
remember when Christ said to one of his deciples who told him he had a funeral to attent.Let the dead bury themselves.Meaning they are already lost and condemned He also told another deciple to go into every home and spread the good news...If not accepted leave shake the dust off your sandels and go to the next/// Some people are predestin to hell..We are told to isolate ourselfs from them after the second attempt of warning in 1peter...all we can do is preach and warn..If someone is not receptive they are already dead..Be thankful You are among the elect..
we are living in the end times ,i tell many everyday you should see all the crazy looks i get off of people . but the truth must be spoken . for Jesus said : to take the word all the cross the world. to really follow Jesus Christ whats that mean to you. say things people will not like because its scary, upsetting,or makes people worry most of you people might be saying /but i say i'd rather be scared, upset, and worried then to believe in a lie or half the truth Jesus did not hold anything back so if we truly are carrying our cross and following him maybe we should listen to him when he talks . (I love you Jesus Christ teach us your way in the name of Jesus )
you people are making me sick!The man asked an honest question and you all condemn him to hell. Wow! what patience and thank God you are not my judges. They are ligit concerns for an unbeliever and you should speak to someone with respect as the bible clearly states without even know what you are talking about. Remember this guys, what measure you use will be used against you and if this kid or man saw all confusion in this world about christianity and you expect him to believe what you tell him today. You want God to judge you so quickly then knock it off and dont say anything if you are not sure of what you are even talking about. Mnay people think they are so right in life to only find out how wrong they are sometimes. Stop and listen to someone before you react. I speak like this to you because you claim to have all the answers. The bible has been changed and there are many different interpretations and you have to understand with how christianity looks today with so amny different denominations that people do have real concerns. So before you send someone to hell forever you better friggin know what you are talking about for sure.
I have a question? If someone ask you to marry them then says if you dont then you can burn in hell forever? Would you want someoen to be with you because they were compelled to. The bible clearly states not to give under compulsion. On the other hand I do know life outside of Jesus is pain and suffering and confusion. Just need to be careful of how and what we say. there are many different translations about hell and how could God watch someone suffer forever? With something so serious , how can one so easily condemn someone so easily with no pain. I believe this shows more on mans heart and what this world is today of no mercy in my opinion. So I would rather err. with caution and show more mercy instead of unending hellfire and brimstome. Like when Jesus said , If your eye is bad then your life and interpretation of what you see is bad. Of course we should question the bible and paul commended the berians for doing so if you know the truth and if someone disagrees you take one scripture and send someone to hell. That shows mans heart and not Gods guys. He talked to religous leaders more seriously than he did unbelievers as well, people confused because of the mess man made of christianity then you have the nerve to send someone to hell for simply stating the obvious or questioning what they see. He who thinks he stands should take notice unless he falls. Please be careful with what you hear , because what measure you use will be used against you. I believe God , all things are possible and he will still forgive even those who judge harshly and dont give them what they desrve. That is GRACE! I dont have all the answers on heaven and hell and dont act as
if I do, but I do know that Jesus taught us to be respectful and merciful to people who have real concerns and you dont before you use a scripture you have to know who and when he was speaking in context. You dont tell someoen hey you are lost and I have no business even talking to you.Even more so when the person is speaking to a real concern of Gods very character that christians are saying is God. Think about it and be careful what you say to people in the future. God says to look at all of scripture and see what it means as a whole. What about when God said come let us reason together, what does that mean. Shout someone down to prov a point or to reason with them. We shouldnt handle Gods word so easily and just say things that we are not sure about or even have given much time to think about the persons actual question. How can you trust the bible? Hve you looked up the truth or are you going by what someoen told you? I believe man has made changes to the bible and we should see for ouselves and study. If man cant even have one denomination then how can we believe they didnt alter some stuff to benefit their opinion. God gives us a mind and the holy spirit to question things. Do you believe God would send someone to hell with no choice, do you believe God would chose some and not others. This is obsurd and shows mans heart and not Gods, we must weigh what is taught through all of scripture an see if it makes sense. I do not say this as an excuse to sin either, but rather grace to do what is right. No man can even discern left from right without God opening ones eyes anyways and you should really know what you are saying to people before you send them to hell without repentance. He did chose people, but in the whole story it is showing man he cant do it without God, doe sthis condemn people forever without another chance and is the bible here to show man he cant even do this right. Look what man has done and it is a humbling thing to see in this world and how much we are lost without his true guidance and we are nothing without him. Pauls we dont see all in this life but will be known as we are known. Are you someone who would sit by and watch someone who sinned against you burn in hell forever or would you give them another chance? Just questions guys, I would want to give them another chance and I believe I have the spirit of God in me as well.
you cannot preach to those who will not listen. They will forever find hatred for his word and his love when it comes from the lips of another man. But do not turn them away, Instead hand them his word, then beg them to read some of it. This is our task.
It isn't a function of hatred for anything. It is simply an understanding that there is absolutely no value to me for the process you are professing. If I don't believe how in the world are you going to frighten me. There is no fright in something that does not exist. I have my beliefs, as you have your yours. I respect your right to your beliefs; please respect me for not having those same beliefs. As the old song says, "we just disagree".
GOOD POINT BUT HOW DO YOU NO WHEN IT ALL STARTED CHANGING DID YOU NOT GROW UP IN A FAITH WERE YOUR PARENTS INSTALLED IN YOU SO WHAT YOU ALL SAYING MUST HAVE COME FROM SOME KNOWLEGE.YES GOD IS ALL ABOUT LOVE!
I don't think anyone is trying to scare anybody. But there are scarey words in the scripture, have a look. Did God himself write that? Then so be it - He also wrote how to be saved. Let ye who have ears to hear, hear. Does anyone think we were given both a warning and a way out?
Please, capitalize God!
scaring people might not work but praying does. Let's all get busy with that....it's important.
Standing on the streets and preaching scripture at the top of your lungs is a lazy and inefficient way of spreading the good word. Not only will your words not be heard, but people will be scared of the rabid man screaming from a distance and walk away... Truly, we should follow the example of Christ; creating personal relationships with these "godforsaken" sinners and showing them how Great and Awesome God can be. We should go from place to place, meet as much people as we can, and tell them all about the good word. We are ambassadors of God; we should try our very best to represent him well. :)
Additionally, is the purpose of the preacher to have people fear hell, or to have people fear God? I believe ther is a huge difference. :)
it's not in mans hands whether people get scared or not,we are to preach the word,be instant in season out of season reprove,rebuke,with all long suffering and doctrine,for the time will come when man will not indure sound doctrine,but will heap to themself teachers having itching ears and shall be turned unto fables.if a person hears the word proclaimed and doesbn't know jesus christ as his saviour,the Holy spirit may apply the word to his heart and make him afraid like felix,but if on the other hand when you do know christ,this doesn't scare at all.
No man knows when the end will come only our Lord knows this. There is no reason to be afraid if your have accepted Jesus. If you have fear maybe it is time to evaluate the things in life. I admit there are some christians who go about spreading Gods Word in the wrong way, no man is the same so the way some receive the message may need to be different. As long as the message is heard, that is what is important. I liked what someone said about we are the messengers it is not up to us to save souls that is Gods place. I read the King James this is the only bible that has not been changed, to me this is Gods Word the way He wanted us to have it. I am not afraid of death or anything in this life because I know no matter what happens the Lord is always with me. This has gotten me through many trials in life. I am a recovering addict and I know I would not be alive today if I had not accepted Jesus. I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me(Philippians 4:13). Man did not make God in our image He made man in His. You need to read Genesis 1 again. Not all "christians" make it up as we go along many of us follow the Word. Many of those who call themselves christians are not truely following what God wants for us or being the kind of people He expects us to be as His children. If you love the Lord with all of yourself then it is easy to love others even if you think they don't deserve it. Jesus died on the cross for all of us none of us deserved His love, but he suffered greatly and gave His life to show us what Love really is. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me (John 14:6). We must put Jesus into our lives and He has to be first.
Religion, faith, destiny, your spiritual temple, whatever you want to call it. We were all born sinners, period!
The matters of the heavens and the world should not be that complicated. The heavens belong to the all mighty creator, and the world belongs to his betrayor, Satan.
The end of the world is not between us, but between God and Satan. God says, stand up all, you rechead, you poor, you cripple, you mentally hanidicap, you competent, and pick a side. Do your want a comfortable life, or do you trouble for the rest of your life. You decide!!
When the time comes, you will be ask to make a choice. What will you decide? That has been the question through all of history, until the end. Maybe we shall see it, maybe we will not.
The easier path has been spelled out, but we were created to make are own choices, through Adam and Eve.
Regardless most humans only use 10 percent of their brains. Which I believe, makes us followers of some sort, and the remaining over analized. The fact of the matter is, faith shouldn't be to complicated. Just picking a side, whatever it is, when ever it is, during your borrow life time, and pray for prosperity.
Your inbreaded, God given, connective spiritual intuition, is by far usually connected and present, and if your conscience is at all, at it's normal capacity, you should in most circumstances prosper, but given the fact the world belongs to Satan he will make trouble for most.
These are my thoughts. Carli
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